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Q&A with Stuart Rutherford

Stuart Rutherford, author of “The Poor and Their Money,” answers 5 common questions asked about savings and the poor.

Aren't poor people too poor to save?

Stuart RutherfordToo poor to save, too poor not to save, that’s the paradox that faces many poor and very poor people. If you’re poor, your income is not just small, it’s probably irregular and unreliable as well. Most of it is quickly spent on essentials. The result is that when you need to buy anything other than essentials (and sometimes even essentials), you just don’t have the cash to do so. If you can't buy a course of antibiotics or clothes from current income, you must find a way to buy it from past income or future income – that means using financial services and devices. The best way to access past income is withdrawing savings; and the best way of accessing future income is by taking a loan – and loans are nothing more than advances against future savings.

Because poor people find themselves more often in this situation than the better-off, it can be argued that the poor’s need for financial services is greater. The poor know this, and it is reflected in their behavior. Most poor households, even those closest to the breadline, actively seek ways to manage savings. They save at home in earthen piggy-banks. They hand money to their neighbors and friends. They join all sorts of savings clubs, and pool savings through other reciprocal traditions of interest-free borrowing and lending.


How do you know that they want to save?

By what they tell me and by observing their behavior. My work has taken me, over the last twenty-five years, to the slums and villages of twenty countries on three continents. I have talked to poor people casually, sitting in their homes and workplaces, in ad-hoc groups, in more structured groups, or through carefully designed research exercises such as the “financial diaries” project in which we build up a detailed understanding of personal financial portfolios through frequent, repeated visits to carefully selected respondents. Not every poor person saves, but it is uncommon to find many who don’t want to: their understanding is too acute to leave them unaware of the importance of saving. The financial diaries done in Bangladesh show this. Even the poorest households in the sample had some means, however fragile, of storing some cash against future needs.


What, if anything, prevents them from saving?

Stuart RutherfordLack of means constrains the quantity of savings they can make, but lack of opportunity is the biggest constraint on their ability to save at all. The two are connected, since a low savings capacity shuts off many savings opportunities. Those with the smallest sums to save are the least able to afford the cost of savings such as transportation, minimum deposit rules, periodic account fees, and charges for withdrawals. Cash stored at home can be stolen, blown away in cyclones, or eroded by trivial day-to-day spending. The poorer you are, the less likely you are to be invited to join a well-run savings club. The smaller your savings, the greater the chance that your moneyguard will swallow your savings with impunity, and the harder you will find it to recover cash from a debtor. These difficulties are compounded by the fact that the poor need to save locally and frequently. A simple savings deduction from a monthly salary is not feasible for them. The keywords for good savings services for poor people are proximity, flexibility (in deposit value and timing), frequency and reliability.


We've heard that some poor people pay others to hold on to their money for them. Why would they do that?

So do you, probably. If you hold a current (or “checking”) account at a bank, you probably receive no interest but pay fees of one sort or another. You tolerate this cost because it would be inconvenient to have to keep the money at home, and unwieldy to keep small amounts locked up in a savings account.


Where I can find evidence that the poor save?

Here are four examples of research that I have been involved in. All of them provide evidence of the many ways that poor people save, or seek to do so.

Financial landscape: Based on close field-level research into the financial behavior of poor people, these studies tend to reveal complex and intensive financial behaviors. The particular services and devices in use show strong local or regional variation, but fall into categories that are universal.

» Read examples

Financial diaries: Completed in Bangladesh and India, and in progress in South Africa, these exercises use intensive field-level research to construct “diaries” of the financial behavior of selected samples of very poor, poor and near-poor households. They too tend to show the rich and complex financial lives of the poor and to illuminate the mix of saving and borrowing services commonly used by the poor.

» See references

MFI databases: With more MFIs using computers to track client transactions, the wealth of electronic evidence of savings trends and volumes among poor people is growing rapidly. For example, SafeSave’s daily transaction records for its 10,000 clients in Dhaka’s slums over seven years are now being studied at the Asian Development Bank Institute in Tokyo. Associated fieldwork is about to begin which will add household-level demographic and economic data, allowing researchers to measure client responses to changes in products and prices, and to track shifting preferences between saving and loan instruments.

» See references

Grameen II: A live experiment of massive scale is going on now in the villages of Bangladesh. Grameen, in its “second phase” has, since 2002, been massively shifting its product mix to favor more, and more flexible, savings instruments for its members. Given that Grameen was famously identified for so long as a microcredit specialist, their move to savings offers a good opportunity to research the reactions of their millions of clients to these new savings services – and one such study has already produced an interim report.

» Read report


Notes and References

Financial landscape studies that I have worked on usually involve random walks through villages and slums. Data are collected through interviews with individuals and ad-hoc groups. Participatory Rural Appraisal (PRA) techniques help to strengthen the interpretation of such data. For example, wealth-ranking is used to explore variations in behavior associated with economic differences; and timelines and seasonal calendars provide contextual information about the local economy. As insights are obtained, they are tested in the next village or slum. What emerges is not a statistically-verifiable description of behavior, but is certainly more than merely “anecdotal.”

Savings and the Poor - The Methods, Use and Impact of Savings by the Poor,“ is an example on the Microfinance Gateway. It was done for MicroSave as part of their initial research into financial service behavior in East Africa. In India, Sukhwinder Arora and I used the technique to amass information for a report for the Department for International Development (DFID) on savings and loan behavior in city slums, reported in “City Savers”, also available on the Microfinance Gateway.

Financial Diaries were the idea of a team from the Institute for Development Policy and Management at the University of Manchester led by David Hulme, managed by me in Bangladesh and Orlanda Ruthven in India. The work was part of the DFID “Finance and Development” project. Carefully selected poor, upper-poor and near-poor households drawn from urban and rural settings were visited every two weeks for a full year and a diary of their financial behavior was constructed.

The sample was small and cannot claim to be representative, but the wealth of data obtained as a result of forming a close relationship between the researchers and the respondents, is unusually rich. A report on the Bangladesh diaries appears on the Institute for Development Policy and Management (IDPM) Web site (use the “Finance and Development” archive link), and as an article entitled “Money Talks: Conversations with Poor People in Bangladesh about Managing Money” in Journal of Microfinance Vol. 5, No. 2; Winter 2003. For the Indian diaries, there's the following:

Ruthven, O. & Kumar, S. (2002) “Fine-Grain Finance: Financial Choice & Strategy Among the Poor in Rural North India," Finance & Development Working Paper 57, IDPM, University of Manchester.

Sinha, S. & Patole, M. (2002) “Microfinance and the poverty of financial services: how the poor in India could be better served," Finance & Development Working Paper 56, IDPM, University of Manchester.

Ruthven, O. (2002) “Money Mosaics: Financial Choice & Strategy in a West Delhi Squatter Settlement” in Journal of International Development (14, 249-271).

Patole, M. & Ruthven, O. (2001) “Metro Moneylenders: Microcredit Providers for Delhi’s Poor," Small Enterprise Development (13, 2).

A more developed version of the diary technique, with a bigger sample, is now approaching completion in South Africa. It is run by Daryl Collins at the University of Cape Town. Their web site provides details of its progress and examples of the data.

MFI data: The analysis of the SafeSave (Bangladesh) client transaction data is being run at the Asian Development Bank Institute by a team headed by Heather Montgomery (hmontgomery@adbi.org). Additional fieldwork is about to start in the Dhaka slums, managed by Marie Jo A. Cortijo (mjacortijo@hotmail.com), and advised by Jonathan Morduch of New York University (jonathan.morduch@nyu.edu).

Field-level research into the impact of Grameen II on client behavior can be found at the MicroSave web site, using the search engine to find “Grameen.”

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